秘密研究所

USA Students Take Turn at Oral History

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Posted on December 9, 2019

Thomas Becnel

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For an oral history program in the Honors College at the 秘密研究所, Ruby Staten expected to dive into everything from delta history to marine science to estuary conservation.

The snake came as a surprise.

A curious water moccasin interrupted one of her video interviews with a fisherman from Blakeley Bluff.

鈥淚 didn鈥檛 even see it,鈥� Staten said, laughing. 鈥淗e鈥檚 like, 鈥楬old on one second,鈥� and starts taking off his microphone. Then he got a stick and kind of shooed it away.鈥�

Field interviews are part of the research experience for USA students participating in a pair of oral history projects focused on the Mobile-Tensaw Delta. While just 30 minutes from campus, the delta offers a glimpse into another world.

They learn history that includes the Battle of Fort Blakeley, one of the final engagements of the Civil War, where Northern forces included 5,000 men from the United States Colored Troops. They learn science based on the astonishing diversity of the Mobile floodplain, which biologist E. O. Wilson described as 鈥淎merica鈥檚 Amazon.鈥� They learn of the ethnic diversity at Blakeley, north of Spanish Fort near the base of the Delta, where blacks, whites and Native Americans have lived together for decades.

鈥淭heir sense of community is very strong,鈥� said Staten, a 21-year-old psychology major from Theodore, Ala. 鈥淓very Sunday, they have a big dinner and you鈥檙e welcome to come every week. That鈥檚 what the Delta is. That鈥檚 how these people live.鈥�

Dr. Kathy Cooke, dean of the Honors College, and Dr. Kern Jackson, director of African American Studies, wanted to build community relationships and encourage immersive civic learning. To support student research, they secured grants from the Alabama Humanities Foundation and the David Mathews Center for Civic Life.

 鈥淎ll of these are pilot programs,鈥� Jackson said. 鈥淚 see it as something larger, coming out of the Honors College, becoming available to other students and being sustained on campus. We鈥檝e had such good results. Hopefully, it鈥檒l be instructive to the University community. You know, if just a little bit of money in the humanities can get all of this? That鈥檚 impressive.鈥�

Several South Alabama students traveled to Utah in October for presentations at a national meeting of the Oral History Association. Their Blakeley interviews will be shared with the public in local library programs early next year. Four students will continue with training and research in a Delta Fellows Internship Program, which will pay a stipend of $1,000.

Cooke started work on the oral history program a year ago. It fits her vision for the Honors College. The more she learned about the Mobile Delta, the more she saw it as an ideal resource for interdisciplinary research.

鈥淚t鈥檚 got history and literature and poetry and art and all kinds of science,鈥� she said. 鈥淭here鈥檚 tourism, engineering 鈥� everything you can imagine, all in a small, easily accessible place.鈥�

Student ambassadors

Jackson, an assistant professor in the USA English department, has been doing oral histories in Mobile for more than 20 years. Now he鈥檚 training students to follow in his footsteps.

鈥淚t鈥檚 funny,鈥� he said, 鈥渂ecause the first thing I told them was just mind your manners. Use your Ma鈥檃ms and Sirs. Don鈥檛 be pushy. In a way, it鈥檚 on-the-job training. As they became more comfortable, they could ask questions in a different way or a different order. They could figure out which questions worked and which did not.鈥�

The Honors College has established relationships with Finch Conservation, which is working on a preservation corridor in Alabama, along with Historic Blakeley State Park and the Mobile Creole Cultural and Historical Preservation Society. Interviews with Blakeley residents help fill the gaps with more personal views of trends and change along the bay.

鈥淭hese people wanted to go down Memory Lane hard,鈥� Jackson said. 鈥淭hey wanted to talk about labels and how they鈥檙e misrepresented. You know, 鈥業鈥檓 not a conservationist, I鈥檓 not an environmentalist, I鈥檓 just me. And these are the things I care about.鈥欌��

Scientists, like Blakeley fishermen, worry that the biodiversity of the Mobile Basin is threatened by industrial and agricultural pollutants moving downstream. In the summer, dead zones appear in Mobile Bay. This is environmental history in the making.

One of the ideas behind the Honors College program is getting students out of the library and into the world surrounding the 秘密研究所.

鈥淭his is a form of community engagement, in addition to earning a grade,鈥� Jackson said. 鈥淧articularly with our best and brightest, the sooner we can get them off the GPA train, the sooner they can look at ideas and the community, in terms of the footprints they leave behind.

鈥淚t鈥檚 been nice to see our students being invited back into the community. You know, 鈥楥ome out and have a meal with us.鈥� All of our field workers have been excellent ambassadors.鈥�

Getting people to talk

Cooke, who is a history professor, has not done much work in oral history. She calls herself a newbie. She marvels at the interview techniques used by those with more experience, such as Jackson, and has witnessed students following his lead.

鈥淭here鈥檚 a real art to talking to people,鈥� Cooke said. 鈥淭he main thing is helping people believe they have something you want to hear. And the ability to read people and ask the right follow-up question. Just being willing to pause 30 seconds while they get their thoughts together.鈥�

Staten, the USA psychology major, knew nothing of Blakeley before she joined the oral history team. Her education since then has included a conversation with Vince Dooley, the famous football coach who grew up in Mobile. She learned as she went along.

鈥淢y first interview was very step-by-step,鈥� she said. 鈥淢y last interview was more like a conversation. It just flowed, and when the conversation veered off the subject, I could steer it back.鈥�

Staten also spoke with Sue Pie, a Native American community leader who invited her to dinner on the Fourth of July, but declined to sit down for a formal interview. Pie is a fixture at the Blakeley landing on Mobile Bay. Kids call her 鈥淢om.鈥�

Recording a dozen interviews has given Staten some confidence in her oral history skills. She talks about the 鈥渕agic鈥� of developing a rapport with someone she just met.

As a Delta Fellow, she鈥檒l be going back to Blakeley as a more experienced researcher.

鈥淚t鈥檚 going to be a more in-depth version of what we鈥檝e already been doing,鈥� she said. 鈥淢aybe we can get an interview with Sue.鈥�

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